13 Gallon Starphire Nano Build & Rebuild Thread

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Ok, the flip "Pirate's Reef" nano project hit a little snag. I have been toying with the idea to put together another nano that would be a little different. More conventional and something with cleaner lines and would have a more modern look.

So, over the last few days I have been considering going with a tank that would better fit the stand that I already have for the project that I was half way through. Looks like 24" x 12" x 12" or a 15 gallon. I wanted a longer tank and slightly more front to back room than the 7.5 gallon Pirate's Reef, but still wanted it to be under 20 gallons. Personally, I really think nanos quit being nanos once the tanks get bigger than 20 gallons.

I also want to go with 3/8" glass so it will be a good strong tank and something that would have a little weight to it. Ideally, I would also like to use low iron glass on the front & sides. I wrote to Glass Cages today to see what one would cost. They came back with a quote of $171 plus freight. Unfortunately, I would have to pick it up off their truck and they travel I-12. I don't really feel like making a 4-5 hour round trip to pick up a 15 gallon aquarium. So, I think I will just DIY the thing. I have a friend that owns a glass shop here, so I will see what kind of a price he can get me on the glass I need.

I will use the small sump that I had for Pirate's Reef, at least for a while to see how it goes. No SCWD on this tank. I will go with one MP-10 for most of the flow. Should be more than enough. Right now, I think I will just go with a 24" TEK 4 lamp T5 fixture. Should be plenty of light for whatever I want to put in such a small and shallow tank.

I was looking around on the net today to see if I could find something like what I was thinking about building and I came across this video on YouTube. It is a 15 gallon Starphire nano made of 3/8” glass. Pretty darn close to what I have in mind. I think the only difference is I would like to use black sealant to assemble mine and I will probably go with a Glass Holes overflow. Anyway, here is the video of what mine should look like. The first couple of minutes is all that you need to look at to see what kind of tank I am thinking about. This one also has a different light on it.



Tank Specs –

24” x 12” x 12”
3/8” glass
Low iron glass for front & sides
Rimless
Braceless
Black Silicone

VorTech MP-10 for flow
Mag 3 return pump
Glass Holes Nano Overflow
Sump (former Pirate’s Reef sump)
Heater (stainless)
AquaMedic Doser for ATO
Lighthouse Controller (original 140 controller)
TEK 24” 4 lamp fixture (with a sort of Kirk combo)
1/4" mesh screen top

Anyway, this will (hopefully) be the beginning of a build thread for a new tank and I will post plenty of pics along the way.
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Re: Itching To Build Another Nano

Shopping List - 11-8-2010 999

1-Order Glass - 3/8" low iron front & sides / standard clear plate back & bottom - Check!
2-Order GE RTV103 Black Silicone - Check!
3-Order Glass Holes Nano Overflow - Check!
4-Order VorTech MP10 - Check!
5-Order 24" TEK T5 Fixture (4 bulb) - Check!
6-Order Mounting Kit for TEK - Check!

Ok, committed now! :rof: Looking forward to putting it together and having another great nano to play with!
 

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Re: 15 Gallon Nano Underway

Sounds like a great nano build. Mixed reef?
 

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minhvu said:
Sounds like a great nano build. Mixed reef?
Thanks VU. Yeah, I hope to have it like the old Pirate's Reef, just not as stuffed like it was in the end. That was mostly because I was gathering frags for the 140.

francisnguyen said:
awesome gary, i've enjoyed following your threads... they're so thorough and well documented, i can't wait to see what this one has in store.
Well, I always enjoy reading those kinds of threads and hopefully it will inspire someone else to do something similar. Nanos are a lot of fun for me and I really miss my old one. I just wanted something a little different this time around.

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The plan right now is to go skimmerless on this one. I had a huge skimmer on my old one and I think it really did better when I took it off line. I will do weekly water changes, like I did on the other one. If it looks like I will need one a little further down the line, then I will start shopping.
 

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Re: 15 Gallon Nano Underway

I was just looking through some other nano threads on RC (yes, I can still log on) and ran across this skimmer. Looked kinda neat for a nano skimmer. Claims to be rated for up to 55 gallons. Don't know about that. Only $79.

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Re: 15 Gallon Nano Underway

Nice design but that pump looks like it'll give out in a few weeks. Looks like a powerhead from walmart
 

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Hey Gary you should get the new model BMQQ CADlights has it. Pumps at the bottom and has a riser tube for adjusting. I looked at one for my nano but wouldn't fit.
 

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ryno212 said:
Hey Gary you should get the new model BMQQ CADlights has it. Pumps at the bottom and has a riser tube for adjusting. I looked at one for my nano but wouldn't fit.
Ok, thanks. I guess I really haven't given nano skimmers much thought.
 

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Re: 15 Gallon Nano Underway

Ok, I am finished! NOT!!

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Seriously, found this tank tonight on RC and it is a very similar setup to what I have planned. It is a 15 gallon, with slightly different dimensions. Uses a 4 T5 bulb fixture for lighting, 1 MP-10 for flow, 5 gallon sump. Also using a Prizm skimmer (I know there are better options there). Anyway, doesn't hurt to dream. Not sure mine will come out looking this nice, but one can dream! !!!

It does appear that everything I ordered yesterday has been shipped today (except the silicone), so I might be getting started on this very soon!
 

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Can't wait to follow this build with ya Gary. Like Francis mentioned you always do a very good job of detailing your tank threads, plus the Pirates reef is still my fav. nano.
 

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Thanks Ronnie. Not any trailblazing likely to happen or crazy stuff like with Pirate's Reef, but I hope to end up with a nice little small system in my computer room / office in my house. The stand is off the shelf, but was modified slightly. The sump is still the old PR sump, which may prove to be too small for this tank, since it is twice as big. The little refugium probably won't do a great deal on this tank either.

I did stumble across this nano sump last night that I kinda like and it even has a fresh water reservoir built in for top off. This one is made of acrylic, but I think I could build it out of glass also. It has black acrylic on the outside, only because part of it would be visible under the desk where it ended up. I wouldn't have to do that. This one would fit in my stand, but there is no refugium, which is not that bad. I am not running one on the 140, but I do have a skimmer on that tank.

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Just tossing around ideas now though. It will start off with the smaller sump to see how it goes.
 

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Re: 15 Gallon Nano Underway

Keep dreaming Gary, you'll get where you want to go. So far sounds like this is going to be a sweet little/nano setup.
 

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joegerard said:
Keep dreaming Gary, you'll get where you want to go. So far sounds like this is going to be a sweet little/nano setup.
Ah, thanks! Dreaming has never been a problem. It's coordinating the dream with cash flow that has always been the problem. :0:0

Well, the RTV 103 silicone got here today (glad I ordered that from Grainger), so if my glass gets in over the next couple of days, we might have a tank go together this weekend! For those of you wondering why I am using that sealant... I went back to look at Ubenripped (Brad's) 75 Starphire build thread (still one of my favorites here on LARC) and saw where he had actually written to GE to ask which of their sealants would be safe to use on his project. His response from GE recommended that he use the RTV 108 (translucent). They also mentioned that a lot of tank manufacturers use that particular sealant to build tanks. The black 100 series sealant is RTV 103. For those of you that never saw his thread: it is located here: DIY Custom Starphire Build Thread I will warn you that the tank never gets set up in the end, but it is a very detailed build thread.

I need to round up my glass drill. :twitch: I am thinking this will only be a two-holer - one for the overflow and one for a single return. I have six holes in the 7.5 gallon Pirate's Reef tank, so 2 would be an improvement.
 

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I need to round up my glass drill. :twitch: I am thinking this will only be a two-holer - one for the overflow and one for a single return. I have six holes in the 7.5 gallon Pirate's Reef tank, so 2 would be an improvement.
I don't know what you are talking about. What are you trying to say here Gary. ????

One thing did you get the glass edges polished like in the video?
 

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Palancar said:
GPReefer said:
I need to round up my glass drill. :twitch: I am thinking this will only be a two-holer - one for the overflow and one for a single return. I have six holes in the 7.5 gallon Pirate's Reef tank, so 2 would be an improvement.
I don't know what you are talking about. What are you trying to say here Gary. ????

One thing did you get the glass edges polished like in the video?
Ha! Yeah, I need to borrow my drill. I know you have a project coming up also, so if I can just get a couple of holes done, I'm good.

Yes, I am having the "exposed" edges polished. Tops all the way around and the front edges. Ain't cheap getting that part done.
 

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Palancar said:
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I need to round up my glass drill. :twitch: I am thinking this will only be a two-holer - one for the overflow and one for a single return. I have six holes in the 7.5 gallon Pirate's Reef tank, so 2 would be an improvement.
I don't know what you are talking about. What are you trying to say here Gary. ????

One thing did you get the glass edges polished like in the video?
Ha! Yeah, I need to borrow my drill. I know you have a project coming up also, so if I can just get a couple of holes done, I'm good.

Yes, I am having the "exposed" edges polished. Tops all the way around and the front edges. Ain't cheap getting that part done.
Oh alright I will get it out of storage. What size bits do you need? I have the full set now from 1/2" to 2" bulkheads. Who did you order the glass from?
 
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